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It is good people offer what they have. BUT Personally I would rather NOT show this at Ecotopia.

I think there is nothing of substance for an ECOTOPIA audience (I am pretty sure everyone at Ecotopia will know all this that is here). And there is nothing practical for what people can do.

Technically the film is put together OK (although reading some subtitles or hearing all the french clearly can be difficult at times), but it is only vagueries and with no direct messages as to what to do next or what you might do or what anyone is doing in praxis. It is also so mixed with different things; migration, G8 and climate change with no red line properly connecting them.

I don't think it has particularly good artistic merit either and is too long. If something is to be shown better would be something like Coalition of the Willing's film or The Story of Stuff - or perhaps something like The Real Dirt on Farmer John - that at least has a positive message that people can equate with and take action on.

There is so much that needs doing it seems a waste to show such a movie that is so empty of meaningful content.

markus petz

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 5:44 PM, ju <asylum@riseup.net> wrote:

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Ecotopia Newsletter (1-21 Aug. 2012, Flaeming Region (Germany)

Hi,

I get a video reportage about "degrowth", including interviews of people
from EYFA, politics green french party and farmer from Congo. And some
video parts from Ecotopia 2007, no border exhibition in Rostock, etc.

You can watch it and show it at the Ecotopia if you want (copyleft):

1st part: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xg2ap2_whydegrowth-1part_news

2nd part: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xg1rua_whydegrowth-2part_news

Grüss und viel glück für Ecotopia 2012!
ju

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>> Hello everybody,
>>
>> is this our e-mail list, so everybody can see what's going on in the
>> preparation group? Some more steps have been done already by different
>> people, and some are in process:
>>
>> done:
>> - mailing list
>> - date for winter preparation meeting, peoples' responses about
>> attendance
>> (via doodle)
>>
>> contacted:
>> - grassrootsorganisation in Berlin potentially our legal body for
>> Ecotopia
>> 2012
>> - mayor of Wiesenburg
>> - EYFA group
>> - Milieu Defensie Amsterdam
>> - Theaterstraat Amsterdam
>>
>> Hey dear folks, I'd like to hear from you, keep the fire burning,
>> especially in these cold days!
>> Our Ecotopia is now like in an egg, which needs to be kept warm and cosy
>> :-)
>>
>> Looking forward to hearing from you!
>> Agnes in Amsterdam
>>
>>
>> Mobile NL: +31 (0) 686 410 830
>> Phone NL: +31 (0) 20 668 22 96
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>> NL-1091 CV Amsterdam
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>> To: "Agnes Werner" <werner_agnes@web.de>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 8:56 PM
>> Subject: Doodle: Ecotopia 2012 preparation winter meeting
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>>> Reminder: Ecotopia 2012 preparation (info@ecotopia2012.org) has invited
>>> you to participate in Doodle poll "Ecotopia 2012 preparation winter
>>> meeting". If you have not participated yet, please do so. If you have
>>> already participated in that poll, please check your answer and edit it
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>>>
>>> Follow this link to open the poll:
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